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As pointed out, your liege's opinion of you can influence their decision to press the claim on your behalf. The target of your claim also has to be achievable for your liege. If Sweden is much less powerful than Norway, you can't make your King like you enough to ever go to war. One way to tip the scales there is weaken Norway through other means. It should be available as a targeted action towards the top liege of the title to your claim. So in your case it should be the Hungarian Khan. Right-clicking him should allow you to use 'Ask to Press Claims', if your liege fulfills all the conditions. I am a noob, In my current run I am under the emperor of germania. I am the king of austrasia. Gavelkind law, I have the option of creating another kingdom title (Frisia). Also, I have some duchies round europe not in my de Jure territories “ west francia “ “italy” 1- when my liege will decide to revoke some lands from me. As a vassal, my only event in the Intrigue tab is 'Ask liege for title' but it never specifies which one I want. I then played as a king with some earl vassals, and one of my earls specifically asked for a county. I want to know how to do that (if possible) if I were playing an Earl. Can you ask for a specific title? The glaringly obvious one is the 'ask liege for title', which obviously does what it says. Now you might be saying, 'but sire, my liege doesn't like me', well lucky enough for you, that guy in the council you keep forgetting, the Chancellor can fix that problem for you.

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The two previous games of CK2 I've played I was an independent state, but this time I decided to play as a vassal (769, playing as a Duke in West Francia). Additionally, I had previously played the game completely vanilla, but the sale on Steam was too good to pass up (I blame the virus!), so now I've got the expansions and boy is the game different.
First, my character has been tapped as my king's Steward and I noticed something. It seems that my character can no longer act as a commander for the armies of my duchy when I go to war independent of my king. I can assign other commanders, but not myself. Is that normal, or am I missing something? Also, if my character is tapped as a Commander by the King, how does that work?
My character is in the Kingdom's Capitol, and his wife is in my Duchy's Capitol. Can they still get pregnant?
Since my character is in the Kingdom's Capitol, does my character still apply his stat bonuses to the Duchy?
My character is currently a duke. If he gains another ducal title and then hands the second ducal title off to his heir, it seems like my heir is no longer my vassal, but instead a vassal of my King. Is that right?
How can I tell when things happen at the kingdom level? I was in a situation where my duchy was at war with a neighboring kingdom over a couple border provinces and the rest of my kingdom was at peace. Suddenly the neighboring kingdom became part of my kingdom and I was fighting against a Duke of my own kingdom. I couldn't figure out what prompted this national realignment. This is just one example.
PS Often I feel blindsided things happening in the game. For example I'll lose a Councillor and I can't figure out why.
PPS sorry for the questions, usually Google is pretty good for this stuff, but I must be missing something on these questions, because I'm not finding answers.

Are you new to Crusader Kings 2 and don’t know where to start? You probably encountred the tip to start from Ireland for the begging but the game is still slow and/or confusing? Fear not for this guide will show you how to create a kingdom in one character!

Chapter 0: Before We Start

Before we start let’s clear something out that can be confusing for new players:

Cassus Beli is a reason for war. Without it you can’t fight. You can wage war against someone who has lands you or one of your courtiers have claim on and few other reasons, but for the sake of this guide we will need just Claim and De jure.

De jure means “by law”. Every duchy consists of counties, every kingdom is made of duchies and so on. If you have duchy title, but not all of it’s de jure lands belong in your realm, you can wage war against outside holders. Winning De jure war always results in realm coming to your realm (but if you are the king it’s not always for you, I will describe it later).

Claim is “legal” right for the land. Legal is in quotation marks since they can be fabricated (important!). Pressing a claim means wage a war in a name of person having the claim agains person holding the title. Winning the war not always result in land coming to your realm! If you are not claimant there are two conditions that must be met to get a land through Claim war:

  • Claimant must already have land in your land (barony will suffice).
  • The title you are pressing claim on must be lower than yours.

For example, if ou are a duke and you press claim on a duchy for someone else, that person will be independant. But if you are king and press a claim on duchy for your vassal duke, then duke will have two duchies and you still are his liege.

That should be enough to get you starting.

Chapter 1: Starting Up

Step 1: Choosing your character.

For begginers, Ireland with a starting date of 1066 is a good choice for couple of reasons. Most rulers are count-tier which means they have up to 3 counties which is low. That gives you early advantage since you can easly gain more lands and be the most powerful person in the land.

Easiest characters are:

  • Murchad ua Brian, duke of Munster – he is a duke with a single county, two vassals, a De jure claim on a nerby county, male heir and, what’s most important, a historical bloodline. That bloodline can be passed to his descendants which give ua Brians an advantage over other Irish rulers.
  • Aed ua Conchobair, duke of Connacht – an old guy with realm of two is weaker than Murchad, but still relevant since he is duke, but he lacks the bloodline and lands. His advantage lies in his position. West Connacht has a double battle modifer giving your troops advantage and giving enemies disadvantage at the same time (attacking from here gives our troops disadvantage though).
  • Murchad ua Cheinnselaig, count of Dublin – his start is a little bit trickier than the last two since he is a count and has no de jure claims. But he has two things other counts hasn’t at that is county of Dublin which is both duchy and kingdom de jure capital (it gives nice modifier to troops) and is an heir for county of Leinster, which makes him triple count. His dad has to die first though, by natural means, or your scheming. He is old, so you can just wait up.

For the sake of simplicity, the rest of the guide will be made as if ua Brian was chosen to play.

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Step 2: Council. First thing you do is checking your council.

Ck2 Ask Liege For Title
  • Set your chancellor to Fabricate claim job on whatever county near you, but in case of Desmond it’s not needed(you already have De jure claim on it so it ‘s not neccesary, but if you fabricate claim you prevent a civil war, more on it later).
  • Set your marshal to train troops in your capital
  • Set your steward to collect taxes in your capital
  • Set your spymaster to Study technology in another country (if you are ua Cheinnselaig and are plotting to kill your father set him to Build Spy network in Leincester)
  • Set your chaplain to improve religous relation with any of your bishops.

If any of your council members has their stats below 15 here is a quick way to change it:

Go to Find character.

Set join court on yes and search all (remember that only men can be in council, exception is rulers wife who can be spymaster).

Filter them by what ability you need and invite those with best. Profit!

Having done that let’s go to the next step, which is…

Step 3: Stabilizing your realm using a civil war.

Yes you read that right. You are going to cause a civil war to get the counties your vassals have. We are doing it because if you control the county, you get all the troops, if it’s your vassal, it’s 40% at best. How do you do that though? There are 2 ways: the way of tyrant and the way of intrigue.
The way of tyrant is simpler one, but crippling your opinion. Just revoke the titles one by one and crush them. Be careful though, this impose tyranny (-40 opinion, ouch).
The way of intrigue takes longer but doesn’t impose tyranny:

  • Go to intrigue (F7).
  • In My Plots you have a table, click on the blue “Choose a plot”.
  • Choose “Revoke county of …”

To succeed you need 80% plot power and at least 1 backer (that’s why your chaplain works on improving relations). If you meet the requirements, there is decision to revoke the county. By revoking them in this way vassals usualy rebel, which means you have to apply good old way of crushing them to bits. You should have more troops from your one county and vassal so it’s no worry.

When you hold all counties in your realm you can get to next chapter.

Chapter 2: Conquest and Creating the Kingdom

So you have your realm stabilized. Good. Next step after winning the civil wars is more wars.

Step 0: Press your de jure claim on any counties that are outside of your realm and proceed to do with them what you did in chapter 2. If you are over your demense limit, raise the centralization law

Step 1: Fabricate Claim.
This is the reason most people don’t play as Ireland when they learn to play. Other countries can gain lands by pressing other claims, but Irish usually have to do without it at the beginning, which is bit tedious.
If you managed to fabricate the claim, just press it and win war and proceed to next step.

Step 2: Foregin Climants.
If you didn’t or you don’t want to wait for Fabricate to work then find a county you want to conquer. Click on it’s shiled and it will take you to the realm page. There is a button named “Claimants”. If it’s grey then though luck, try elswehere. If it’s blue, then let’s get to party. Clicking the button shows you the list containing all people with claims to that realm. If beside their portrait is green thumb up, then you hit a jackpot and can invite him to court. You can now press his claim in war, BUT DON’T DO THAT YET! If he doesn’t have land in your realm, he will just become new independent ruler, so first you have to give him something (even a barony will suffice). Then press the claim and win the war. If you are short on counties to give (leave at least as much as your most powerful vassal have to yourself), then just chapter 2 someone. Repeat this step until you have 10 counties in your realm, and then…

Step 3: Long live the king!
You can create a kingdom now, but don’t be so hasty, there is one last thing to do before making kingdom! Your deflaut succesion law is Gavelkind which means all your sons get some of your lands when you die. You want to change that to ethier Tanistry or Primogeniture.

When I wrote Tanistry, I felt the fanbase howl in hatred at me, but please just listen.
Both succesion laws make it so all your ladns go to your heir after your death. Difference is that in Primogeniture your heir is always your eldest child (usually son) and in Tanistry your heir is Tanist.
Tanist is chosen by you and your vassals from your dynasty (they tend to favor the elders). So you ask why the hell would I want that. Answer is simple: usually you don’t, but there are two exceptions:

  • If your realm is full of counts of your dynasty, it enables you to gather all your familys land back togheter (not quite, since vassals usually favor landless heirs, but it’s possible).
  • Primogeniture gives all your not-eldest child -10 opinion on you, which means nothing, unless they are also your vassals.

For the rest of the land, ethier conquer them with de jure claim or offer them vassalization. Many accept if you haven’t waged war on them.

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Chapter 3: What Next?

When you become the king, you should already have a knack on this game, so ethier go play someone else, or become emperor of Britannia.

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To become emperor, just do what you did earlier on dukes instead of counts. Best order of conquering the British isles is Wales, Scotland and England. Wales are just a bunch of dukes, like Ireland was before you happend, but it has less land than Ireland, so it’s not a best start. Scotland is already a kingdom, and it can kick your ♥♥♥ quick if you don’t watch it, but getting it piece by piece is quite easy. England is trickier due to it’s size, but doable if you have Wales or Scotland under your thumb.